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		<title>By: Bruce Almighty</title>
		<link>http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/corked-out/comment-page-1/#comment-44552</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all great column, sparking an interesting debate. On the one hand I think to myself… is a pro snowboarder&#039;s pursuit of the potentially elusive double cork really any different to the average Joe’s (or Jane’s) pursuit of, let’s say, their first backside 180. Not really... they both have the same desire to push themselves and progress in the sport they love, they’re just at different stages of the game. 

Thing is, you’ve only got to look at the fact Red Bull have just dropped half a mill on building Shaun White his own private half pipe in the Colorado wilderness (so he can “push the sport further”) to realise that those two worlds are light years apart… especially when, instead of a drag lift, he prefers the combo of private chopper and skidoo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Zoh2JC_XA

Does it really ‘push the sport forward’ if Shaun White hammers his pipe non-stop (easy tiger!) until he perfects the, what... triple cork… quadruple cork? Not for me it doesn’t. Granted, it’s an intriguing spectacle to watch on Youtube for a couple of minutes, but how exactly has it ‘raised the bar’ for me and other intermediates out there? 

Having said that, if Red Bull wanted to build a private fun park for me and my mates I’m sure I’d be the first man on that chopper… all in the sake of progress of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px; display:block; width:48px' ><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e8d0e9bd8ed39aaf63788a5938909fbc?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></span>First of all great column, sparking an interesting debate. On the one hand I think to myself… is a pro snowboarder's pursuit of the potentially elusive double cork really any different to the average Joe’s (or Jane’s) pursuit of, let’s say, their first backside 180. Not really... they both have the same desire to push themselves and progress in the sport they love, they’re just at different stages of the game. </p>
<p>Thing is, you’ve only got to look at the fact Red Bull have just dropped half a mill on building Shaun White his own private half pipe in the Colorado wilderness (so he can “push the sport further”) to realise that those two worlds are light years apart… especially when, instead of a drag lift, he prefers the combo of private chopper and skidoo - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Zoh2JC_XA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....h2JC_XA</a></p>
<p>Does it really ‘push the sport forward’ if Shaun White hammers his pipe non-stop (easy tiger!) until he perfects the, what... triple cork… quadruple cork? Not for me it doesn’t. Granted, it’s an intriguing spectacle to watch on Youtube for a couple of minutes, but how exactly has it ‘raised the bar’ for me and other intermediates out there? </p>
<p>Having said that, if Red Bull wanted to build a private fun park for me and my mates I’m sure I’d be the first man on that chopper… all in the sake of progress of course.</p>
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		<title>By: macdad</title>
		<link>http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/corked-out/comment-page-1/#comment-43994</link>
		<dc:creator>macdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pro sport is the same whatever your poison - it&#039;s entertainment baby and if you can package it, get big viewing figures and make the sponsors happy then jobs-a-good-un

the more established pro sports are finding other plateaus which make them hard to predict what&#039;s next in terms of their actual sport development

take rugby where the athletes are becoming bigger, like human battering rams and the skill of the game is sadly on the wane and being replaced by territory advantage, much like american football....or football where the most notable events in recent times are one of the greatest players head butting another player or the most exciting part of the season is actually seeing who has the most money in the transfer window.  a simplified view but you get the point hopefully....it&#039;s all about winning and the green ($)

snowboarding is young in comparison and the limits of what&#039;s possible in landing moves has obviously not been reached, but where else is there to go for these young athletes other than going one better?  

as they get older their need for something more fulfilling will take over, then they can go for a freeride with that old sage of the mountains ed andrews (if they&#039;re physically still able to)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px; display:block; width:48px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dc4638660d0e3b9ea4cb09c3576b57eb?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></span>pro sport is the same whatever your poison - it's entertainment baby and if you can package it, get big viewing figures and make the sponsors happy then jobs-a-good-un</p>
<p>the more established pro sports are finding other plateaus which make them hard to predict what's next in terms of their actual sport development</p>
<p>take rugby where the athletes are becoming bigger, like human battering rams and the skill of the game is sadly on the wane and being replaced by territory advantage, much like american football....or football where the most notable events in recent times are one of the greatest players head butting another player or the most exciting part of the season is actually seeing who has the most money in the transfer window.  a simplified view but you get the point hopefully....it's all about winning and the green ($)</p>
<p>snowboarding is young in comparison and the limits of what's possible in landing moves has obviously not been reached, but where else is there to go for these young athletes other than going one better?  </p>
<p>as they get older their need for something more fulfilling will take over, then they can go for a freeride with that old sage of the mountains ed andrews (if they're physically still able to)</p>
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		<title>By: Steezey McSteeze</title>
		<link>http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/corked-out/comment-page-1/#comment-43860</link>
		<dc:creator>Steezey McSteeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@louis, you&#039;ve a point - but in a way it just backs up what Ed is saying - competitions get boooooring just because it&#039;s so hard for ordinary folk like you and me to relate to the pirouette style manoeuvres these guys are busting out.

I&#039;d take a lazy afternoon sessioning a makeshift kicker (read: a shoddy pile of snow plumped down with the back of your board) over watching an event, any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px; display:block; width:48px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7a620f39005e6686e6d5ba56c61d8484?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></span>@louis, you've a point - but in a way it just backs up what Ed is saying - competitions get boooooring just because it's so hard for ordinary folk like you and me to relate to the pirouette style manoeuvres these guys are busting out.</p>
<p>I'd take a lazy afternoon sessioning a makeshift kicker (read: a shoddy pile of snow plumped down with the back of your board) over watching an event, any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
		<link>http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/corked-out/comment-page-1/#comment-43856</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progress Dubai style?

Can you name a freesport where progress is not elitist and narrows down the playing field to those who are truly committed and willing to risk death in order to be at the forefront of the sport? Comps have always, and will always, be about spin to win and go big or go home. 

Bmxing competitions are all about who can do the biggest spins and most inverted tricks. In rollerblading it is all about triple backflips and flatspins on vert and the biggest spins into and out of grinds and skateboarding well.... whole other level compared to five years ago. In short, all sports are the same. 

Also, when have competitions ever &#039;worked&#039; for anyone on an emotional level?

Competitions have only ever been about two things: Recognition and money. Athletes use these events as a means to an end. Get some sponsors. Get some cash. Plain and simple. The true icons of bmxing, skateboarding and snowboarding have always been the ones in groundbreaking videos that show the viewer something completely unique, not Shawn White murking the world&#039;s best in his tender teen years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px; display:block; width:48px' ><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/42e2cb9ce4534236a5c04605938a50c4?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></span>Progress Dubai style?</p>
<p>Can you name a freesport where progress is not elitist and narrows down the playing field to those who are truly committed and willing to risk death in order to be at the forefront of the sport? Comps have always, and will always, be about spin to win and go big or go home. </p>
<p>Bmxing competitions are all about who can do the biggest spins and most inverted tricks. In rollerblading it is all about triple backflips and flatspins on vert and the biggest spins into and out of grinds and skateboarding well.... whole other level compared to five years ago. In short, all sports are the same. </p>
<p>Also, when have competitions ever 'worked' for anyone on an emotional level?</p>
<p>Competitions have only ever been about two things: Recognition and money. Athletes use these events as a means to an end. Get some sponsors. Get some cash. Plain and simple. The true icons of bmxing, skateboarding and snowboarding have always been the ones in groundbreaking videos that show the viewer something completely unique, not Shawn White murking the world's best in his tender teen years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gemma Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/corked-out/comment-page-1/#comment-43814</link>
		<dc:creator>Gemma Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to state the obvious, but the Air &amp; Style is a competition - and there is a huge difference between snowboarding in contests and for films / photos etc. It&#039;s always difficult and controversial judging a creativity-based sport, but you wouldn&#039;t give a sprinter a gold medal for running with more style than the guy who crossed the finishing line first? (Or would we if we could? Hmmm)

There has to be parameters in which to award points and push progression - amplitude, rotations, corks - otherwise you can&#039;t hold contests, plus the non-snowboarding public need some kind of calibration to understand the skill level. 

Films will always be where artistic free-spirits thrive - rather than the competitively minded - and inspire because they&#039;re from a completely different, left brained, sphere: comparing the two is like lumping the X Factor and Radiohead into the same category - or the Tour de France with a Fixed film. Polar opposites of one creative medium. 

Agreed: a double cork 10 may seem dull if a person finds it difficult to comprehend, but when you compare tricks from the Air and Style five years ago to today, the standard now is insane. Especially when you realise the guy who took gold was a completely surprising, outsider wildcard, who&#039;s riding has improved exponentially in the last year, and who beat all the top five favourites.

P.s. what&#039;s with all the swearing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px; display:block; width:48px' ><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/61a5a537e9a041b4f3e08e9998a8f978?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></span>Sorry to state the obvious, but the Air &amp; Style is a competition - and there is a huge difference between snowboarding in contests and for films / photos etc. It's always difficult and controversial judging a creativity-based sport, but you wouldn't give a sprinter a gold medal for running with more style than the guy who crossed the finishing line first? (Or would we if we could? Hmmm)</p>
<p>There has to be parameters in which to award points and push progression - amplitude, rotations, corks - otherwise you can't hold contests, plus the non-snowboarding public need some kind of calibration to understand the skill level. </p>
<p>Films will always be where artistic free-spirits thrive - rather than the competitively minded - and inspire because they're from a completely different, left brained, sphere: comparing the two is like lumping the X Factor and Radiohead into the same category - or the Tour de France with a Fixed film. Polar opposites of one creative medium. </p>
<p>Agreed: a double cork 10 may seem dull if a person finds it difficult to comprehend, but when you compare tricks from the Air and Style five years ago to today, the standard now is insane. Especially when you realise the guy who took gold was a completely surprising, outsider wildcard, who's riding has improved exponentially in the last year, and who beat all the top five favourites.</p>
<p>P.s. what's with all the swearing?</p>
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